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Sunday, August 2, 2015

ORISHA OOO!-YORUBA VILLAGE IN SOUTH CAROLINA WHERE BLACK AMERIKKKANS WORSHIP YORUBA ORISHA!-FROM VICE.COM

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Sunday, August 02, 2015

OYOTUNJI 000000!--A YORUBA VILLAGE IN SOUTH CAROLINA!-FROM VICE.COM

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An Oral History of the West African Village That Has Been in South Carolina for Four Decades

July 30, 2015
By Christopher Kilbourn

The king on his throne. All photos of an ancestor worship ceremony at Oyotunji by the author
At the tail end of the 1960s, elements within the Civil Rights Movement were having a debate about how the African-American community at large should confront the hostile and ignorant society in which it resided. Some advocated peaceful assimilation; others raised the idea of a violent, apocalyptic insurrection. And a few suggested moving to rural South Carolina, establishing a polygamous religious commune, and creating an outpost of West African culture through regular acts of ancestor worship, animal sacrifice, and other rituals.
On VICE News: Road-Tripping to South Carolina With the 'New' KKK
This outpost is the Oyotunji African Village, founded by a man known as His Royal Highness Oba Oseijeman Adefunmi I, who in the late 60s was inspired to leave New York, purchase land in the Deep South, and establish a community born from the idea that black empowerment needed to focus on culture, not just economic independence.
More than four decades later, Oyotunji persists, providing a pleasant setting for converts to the Yoruba religion to live out their spiritual lives. According to a 1995 Essence article, the village had about 120 inhabitants during its mid-70s peak. Today there are around 25, and leadership has passed on to one of its founder's 22 children, Oba Adejuyigbe Adefunmi II.
Tourists are welcome to stop by the village, which sits about 50 miles outside of Charleston, near Sheldon, South Carolina. Its atmosphere of inclusiveness and cultural education stands in stark contrast to the recent church shooting and the intense fallout that resulted nearby. By all accounts, Oyotunji is not just a place to live, but a way of life: Its inhabitants construct temples to the pantheon of spirits called Orishas and pray to them every day. Curious about the life and perspectives of these traditionalist back-to-the-landers, I traveled to Sheldon, South Carolina, to learn a bit about Yoruba culture and gain some insight into Southern life in 2015. This is what they said:

COMING TO OYOTUNJI

Olayatan: I came for a two-week visit on August 6, 1978. So I guess that's coming up on 37 years.
Olapeju, wife of the king: It's been about a year [since I moved here]. My aunt was married to the first kabiyesi ("king"—literally, "the one who no one opposes"), so my family's been familiar with the culture for a while. I started coming down with her a couple years back, and I fell in love with the culture, my daughter fell in love with the culture. So we decided last year to go ahead and make the plunge. I don't know if I'll be here forever, but I definitely am enjoying the time that I'm here right now.
Akintobe: I heard about it in Germany. I saw a little article in the military newspaper about a voodoo village in Beaufort [County], South Carolina, and it showed the king sitting on a throne that perhaps he made himself. I cut that picture out and placed it above my bed, and that's where it stayed until I left, 30 months later. I don't know why I did it. I was compelled by a spiritual force that I couldn't resist. And I came here in December of '74.
Ofalaya: I met the Oba in 2003 in Key West, Florida, when he was a prince. He came to Key West to declare one of the beaches there an African burial ground. And I met him there. And I did some volunteering at the African museum in Key West that he helped start. My sister's a Shango priest, so I wasn't unfamiliar with the culture.
Oba Adejuyigbe Adefunmi II : I was born in Oyotunji in 1976, right here on the property during a storm. And the house blew over. I remember my dad telling me the story. And he came over there to rush and see if my mother was OK, and he said she came crawling out holding me from under some boards.
Olpeju
Olapeju: It's not so much a religion as it is a culture or a lifestyle. We're here to honor our ancestors. That means I honor yours. That means you honor mine. It's a different dynamic than just going to church on Sunday and praying.
Akintobe: This is not part-time. Full-time. Twenty-five hours, daily. Sleeping, wake up, it's part of you. Go to bed saying certain things, wake up saying certain things. God, God. To the Orishas, to the ancestors, daily. All day long. Praising. Giving thanks.
Ofalaya: After you go through your initiation, you spend three weeks with your Iyalosa. She would be your godparent who helps you go through the transition of becoming initiated, becoming a priest or a priestess. You have your physical parent or your biological parent, and then you have your spiritual parents. One of the Orisha will be your father and one of them will be your mother.
I have done things that I never thought I would ever do. Like chopping wood, and not using a cell phone.
You get up at 5 AM and spend your time with yourself, really. Because after that, until the time you go to bed, your time belongs to everyone, and whatever needs to be done in the nation. The farming is a big thing that we work together on. Someone weeds, someone waters, someone plants.
Olapeju: I have a job outside, so I also have to take into account my work schedule. But I assist with the raking.
Olayatan: Tours come. They invite us out for lectures and presentations. We do cultural events. We have priests who do consultations for people. They read them and give them counseling.
Akintobe: I'm a priest. I've been initiated into the secret mysteries of Obatala, who is my father. That was 1978. And then I went to the high priest of Ifa in West Africa in 1992. And I went back again in 2000 to finish it up. So I'm Babaaláwo, "father of secrets."

HOW OYOTUNJI WAS FOUNDED

Oba: My dad, he was born in '28. He was about 41, 42 [when Oyotunji was built.] He had two temples in New York, and he was the first African American to tell black people that, Look, not only are you African, you have a culture and a religion, and here it is.
He said he was nothing until he ran into African culture. He was bumping in the dark.
Akintobe: He was a man who loved art; he was a commercial artist. And he was a dancer with the Katherine Dunham dance troupe. That's when he toured Egypt and Cuba, and that's when he really got into African culture. His mother and father came up under Marcus Garvey, so he came up early.
Oba: He married a European woman, a Dutch woman in Greenwich Village. It was with [her] that he became radicalized as this African traditionalist. And he said it was because he noticed she had a culture: They had holidays and pageantry and all these sorts of things, and my dad was very interested in it.
And he asked her one time, and she said, "You don't have a culture. You don't have a religion. Because you have not been taught it." And she opened him up. And she introduced him to a black nationalist, Harvey. And Harvey started taking him from Greenwich Village to Harlem, and that's when it all started. He got fired up at those rallies and speeches. Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael and Martin Luther King.
He said, "We've got to get out of the city. We've got to do like they're doing in Africa. If we're nationalists, we've got to have a land, at least." And so he started to design it. They chipped in and bought this property here for about $500. They began to build temples and institutions first. This is back in the 60s.
Akintobe: We didn't have any electricity, we didn't have any indoor plumbing. [This was] back in the 70s to '85. We were so into studying, the initiations, learning as much as we could get our hands on, and trying to absorb and prepare ourselves as custodians of the culture. This place was like a university.
Olayatan: Kerosene lamps, outhouses. Wood stoves for cooking and heating. I loved the energy then. And I love the energy now, but it's—that's the way it was then.
Oba: The early people who came here were not builders. They were PhDs and doctors and stuff. So they were building [houses] out of cover sheets and pallets. Not that you can't build out of pallets, but you've got to do it right. And so the houses leaked, and they got blown over by storms.

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Olayatan: Technology came in. We got electricity. We got running water. But somewhere between Nixon and Reagan, somewhere in there was a kind of turnaround. The economy started getting tougher. Folks were struggling for money. Then the oracle says, OK, things are going to get really tough. And we didn't know what it meant at that time, but [he was predicting] the onslaught of drugs and crime in the city.
So he says, "OK, the priests have to go out and form other communities like this." So [since the 80s,] they have [established] shrines and temples in various parts of the country and priests that administer to the community. To try and let them know you can reconnect with your ancestors and your ancestors' culture.
Oba Adejuyigbe Adefunmi II

THE NEW KING

Oba: [In 2005], I was traveling across Seven Mile Bridge [in Florida] one day and I got a call from one of the elders. He said, "I've got to tell you something. Where are you?" I said, "I'm over the water, the best time. Going over a long bridge." He said, "Oh, perfect." And then he told me: "Your father passed away this morning."
I couldn't even hear what he was saying before my mind was racing. And I came back to Oyotunji, and I went through three months of traditional preparation for coronation. It was the second time that we had done it on North American soil. For three months, we had to wear black and be secluded in the room. And we had to serve all of the chiefs.
They would ask the spirits, How are we doing? Each day, they would check in with the divinities, with the oracle, to find out exactly what's needed. How's my spirit? How's my character? And so I had to feed them and cook for them every time. Basically, they had to demean my character all the way down from whatever I had picked up in my life.
I remember the day after coronation, people were saying, "That didn't even look like you out there!" It had really changed me.
And so I remember what I always said to myself was, I want to be able to build Oyotunji. I want to be able to build it standard, nice.
So we've remodeled this temple here. We did the Oshun temple down the road. We built the bathroom, the shower house, the media center. All of these buildings here, we remodeled them. Redid the palace. We redo the road twice a year. We've been able to just continue to just build and build and build. The only thing we didn't redo is my house.


RACE IN THE SOUTH

Akintobe: That young man [Dylann Roof, the Charleston shooter] just turned 21. To have such hate. And why? Not once did he say that he was discriminated against. Nothing of that sort. [It was] something that he just felt. That he could do it, get away with it.
Can the stroke of a pen change the heart of our enemy? That's the question I always ask. Passing a law? Taking down the Confederate flag? How do you change the heart of our enemy?
Oba: America never went into repair mode. It's always been, put a new tablecloth on the dirty table because we've got guests. And over time, you're going to smell it coming through the cloth.
After the Civil War was won, the Klan would still carry the Confederate flag. So our ancestors got used to seeing the Confederate flag not as a symbol of culture and heritage. Fuck no. They rode in and burned your house down. That was your visual. If they came in and grew gardens to help poor black people, it'd be a different thing. But they didn't. It was always segregation.
If you steal a person's culture, then you stole the most precious thing that they have. –Olayatan

WHY CULTURE MATTERS

Olayatan: It's important for us as Africans in America to know who we are, so we can know what we have brought to the world, and what we can bring to the world in the future.
If you steal a person's culture, then you stole the most precious thing that they have. Because that culture talks about history, contribution, and all of those things that we as a species stick our chests out about. What my people have done. What my ancestors have done. And basically, Africans in America have been told, You ain't done nothing. You ain't nothing, you ain't done nothing, you're not gonna do nothing. Because you never did anything. And so many of our people have bought into that. And that's a tragedy and it's a sickness.
Oba: Europeans have to know this culture, especially in America. You're talking about healing. Taking the flag down and all these superficial things are not healing. Understanding each other's culture is healing.
Akintobe: Oyotunji is the solution. Something was missing, but I found it here. When you know thyself, nobody can say anything to you. Once you know thyself, if you know your historical past, your ancestral past, what your people were, what they did before captivity... You walk with your shoulders and your head high. You've got nothing to be ashamed about and everything to be proud of. Everything.
Christopher Kilbourn is a freelancer in New Orleans. Follow him on Twitter.

Topics: Oyotunji, South Carolina, Yoruba, Oba Oseijem

Monday, May 26, 2014

OYEDEPO! - LOOK AT THIS GREAT BLACK PASTOR! -HIS WORDS/DEEDS CAN INSPIRE ALL BLACK PEOPLE!- FROM PUNCH NEWSPAPERS,NIGERIA

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We are not ashamed to be called the church of the rich–Oyedepo

   
 


Bishop David Oyedepo
 
Founder, Living Faith Church aka Winners Chapel, Bishop David Oyedepo, in this interview with Olabisi Deji-Folutile, GBENRO ADEOYE and TUNDE AJAJA, talks about the church and sundry issues
You preach as if you have committed the entire Bible to your memory. How many times have you read the Bible?
The Bible is an unfinishable book, you keep reading. A student once met me after a meeting and said that I quoted 68 scriptures verbatim. He asked if I memorised the scriptures, I said no, I eat them. No matter how unintelligent you are, you can’t forget the food you ate last night, except you are mentally derailed. If you are given three seconds, you could tell what you ate about five days ago, if you truly ate it. So, the Bible is just not for reading, it’s actually for eating. I’m not among the people that have read the Bible three or five times, I don’t know how many times I have read the Bible and I’m not planning to know how many times. I just know it’s my delight to feed on it daily, and I can’t claim to have finished reading it.
The Living Faith church is 33 years old, how has it been pastoring this one church for the past years?
The ministry is 33 years, the church is now in its 31st year. It started as an itinerant ministry before we were called into the church ministry. It has always been interesting. These things work when you have the right perspective on them. Every pastor is ordained to serve the congregation, not to be served by the congregation. When that understanding dawns on any pastor, and he embraces it, then, pasturing becomes a sweet adventure. I’ve never looked towards what I can get from any member since inception. But I’ve always longed for what I can give to the people. I must say I’m jealous over them, I don’t want anyone to take advantage of them or play games on them. I want them to just be the children of God that they are, serving God without duress or pressure.
Is it true that church members here pray for the dead and they wake up, even in the mortuary, how do they do it?
(Cuts in..) By tapping them and saying wake up (laughs). We must know the source of everything that we experienced or observed. No man has the power to raise the dead. Jesus is the only one that has the keys of resurrection and death in his hands. So, we rely on him to do those things and he quickens whosoever he wills; he determines who to bring back and who not to. We only believe in God to bring back whosoever he wishes, if we have the key, we would be delighted to bring back everybody, and even open a clinic for bringing back the dead.
Why are there so many rich people in Winners?
Because they know better than their contemporaries. If you don’t know what you have, you won’t know if you are deprived of it. The Bible is an open chequebook, it is by revelation we access what belongs to us; by faith we take delivery of it. Someone had access to our empowerment programme and she is a pepper seller, while others sell one basket a day, she sells six, seven. I learnt she had become the envy of all the pepper sellers in her area. Such person has an understanding that whatever she does, she prospers and she knows that when she pays her tithe, she experiences open heavens. But in case people don’t know, they perish for lack of knowledge, and in case they think when you are rich you miss heaven, then they perish for lack of knowledge.
So, it’s right when people claim that this church is only for the rich?
It’s for all the people who believe that Jesus already paid for them to be rich. And those who don’t believe, when they come they start believing when they see it happen in a lot of people’s lives. And we are not ashamed to be called the church of the rich. If they call your family poor, will you be excited? Nobody would be excited. Even when a family is poor, they hate to be called poor. No man in his right mind enjoys being called poor, and nobody truly wants to be poor, people may pretend. Which is more honourable between being a giver and a beggar? Most of us came in very poor, but the light of God’s word came on us and we walked out of poverty in grand style into wealth and riches.
How come there is such wealth in the church despite the poverty in the nation?
The kingdom of God is funded by God’s resources. We are not funded by the economy of the world, but by the economy of the kingdom, which has a budget for all of its agenda on earth. We’ve been here since 1999 and we have never had power outage or water shortage. The main players are Nigerians, the builders are Nigerians. There is no building here that any foreign expert took part in. There is no foreign company’s presence here, including the tabernacle. Some of the revered foreign companies here in Nigeria are technicians in Germany, and they are all political contractors, not that they have something special to offer.
Is there any way we can translate this into the Nigerian system?
It is possible by believing in the capability and capacity of Nigerians to do whatever they need to do. This is the largest church auditorium in the world. It’s 104m free span wide. Even one of the reputed foreign construction companies came here to take pictures. Nigerians have unusual capacity to match any expertise in the world in any field they are involved in. Most of us go to school in foreign lands and we beat them, is it that when they get here, they become smarter? It’s just for the authorities at the various levels to believe that we cannot develop ourselves seeking foreign aides for everything. We must take advantage of the opportunities around us to develop the capacity of our men and women. This office was built in 2001 and it’s neat and there is no crack on the wall, so, what is the problem? But if we want to do anything, we must give it to people from foreign countries so that those who award the contract can have a deal and share the money and at the end of the day, they are still poorer than poverty because any money stolen never enhances a man’s value.
We learnt your church members once donated about 700 cars as seed and that the cars were given to the pastors?
It’s important to mention that there was no time that I know in the history of this church where there were 700 cars. There is no such story. People can make anything out of anything. There was a time they said we had six planes, and I said they didn’t count them well, they should be up to 30 so that we use one each day of the month. Those are things that make news in the social media even when they are lies. People give here because they are taught to give, because we understand from the scriptures that it is the only way to increase. Every normal Winner takes good care of his parents. We also give to the poor. My family has sponsored close to 150 people out of university and others at Landmark University are on scholarship on our own ticket because of our commitment to agriculture. It is a lifestyle; it didn’t start yesterday or two days ago. Since 1992, I have been consciously sponsoring students in various universities in Nigeria. The church is blessed because the church is a giving church. Just today (before you came), I signed millions for people who have health needs from the welfare account. And that continues. For instance, the church gives scholarships annually, not N100m or N150m. And it’s not in the news. And that we have been doing for years.
How do you feel when people accuse you of flying in jets and spending church money to maintain the jets?
I feel very good. It’s an opinion. Let me tell you what my understanding of persecution is; it’s simply an opinion harshly expressed. And everybody has a right to his opinion. People who are walking in the truth are hardly bothered when things are said negatively about them because they have nothing to hide. The truth is I have never felt it, some say it’s not human, but I have not. I can’t be wasting my time trying to reply lies because I have too many things to do. They are doing their work, let me be doing my work too and before they wake up in the morning, I’ve done the next one, so, it doesn’t matter. My idea of it is that, in a football match, you have only 22 people playing with thousands of spectators. And that is the way it is in the journey of life. In every field, you find just few players and many spectators, multitudes. If we don’t know where to place opinions, they will displace us. When we started Convenant University, so many people said it would not work, now, we hosted two Nobel Laureates this week, whereas no Nigerian university has ever hosted one in the history of university education in Nigeria. Now, it is the most pronounced and preferred private university in Nigeria. In fact, they say this is the university of the future; that is what they say in the university community. Those who said it could not work now have their children here because they have changed their mind. Some people say how can you tell children how to dress? We have to do that so they won’t behave like mad people on the street. They say how can you tell them they can’t use phone? We tell them so they would be disconnected from cultism. Ask me anything, I can tell you why we did it. Where are you going to find the President of a nation with a woven hair? I can tell you that in the next 100 years, you won’t find a male president using earring because they would count you as irresponsible, even in the secular world, they won’t see anything in you. As free as America is, have you ever seen any minister there with earrings? The person may be qualified, but he will be termed irresponsible. But if you train these children how to carry themselves, it will open up their future. Everywhere you get to in this world, people are looking for responsible people, who don’t only say so, but prove so. So, all the opinions on Covenant University have died now because we didn’t stop pursuing what we believe was right and now it has become a standard.
Is that why the CU had the highest number of first class graduates that won the Federal Government’s scholarship twice now?
What we do first is to package the man to suit the future that he is dreaming of. And that we do by injecting our seven core values into them, and we used SIM CARDS as the acronym for it: Spirituality, Integrity, Posssibility Mentality, Capacity Building, Responsibility, Diligence and Sacrifice. We package that into them so that right from here, they have two things; character and capacity working for them. With those two, you can go to any level in life. Here, there is time for everything.
We learnt the university wants to be one of the top 10 universities in the world in 2020. Don’t you think this is a tall dream?
Where we are today, Harvard was not there 100 years after it took off. I studied the world class universities in depth. So, we are closest to it. The two Nobel Laureates that came signed up as visiting professors at Covenant University, we have about five of them in different areas. That somebody has never done it does not mean it cannot be done. We are believing God for it, not by using strength and power. There is a particular university in the US that never takes anybody from outside North America for postgraduate studies, but we have 19 Covenant University graduates there. Prof. Okebukola shared that with me at the conference last week. A Covenant University graduate is the overall best graduating student in a school in Britain. So there is increasing expression in the quality of training that they receive in their respective areas. Except the dream is taller than God; if it’s not taller than God, it’s a cheap possibility.
We even learnt the church is planning to establish two more universities?
It is actually seven in our vision plan.
Are universities now secondary schools that you establish here and there?
We are trying to avoid having too many students on one campus so that we will not lose the quality of the training programme. Otherwise, the quality would wear down gradually. But because of the present security challenge that the nation is facing, it’s normal for us to review our approach in a manner that does not create tension for workers and anybody else. We believe God to help us out of the crisis. So if there are no adequate mentioning of our programmes, it is to create adequate room to see these security issues overturned.
Some people believe faith-based universities charge high tuition that some of their members can’t even afford…
They should bring the comparison. You know people talk all kinds of things. Compare what they pay here and there and what those payments cover. The rate of power consumption in the hostels alone is out of this world. All we need to juxtapose this is that they should rent the room and pay for electricity and they would pay ten times the amount. People should just sit down and find out what exactly they are paying for. The church has not drawn anything from Covenant University since inception in 12 years. But this year, the church reserves about N1.6bn stakes in its development. So, it’s not a business, it’s a service platform. In every nation of the world, the government subsidises education to all the stakeholders, not in this country, not a dime has ever crossed from government to any private university in Nigeria. And ask those who are in it how much profit they are making, they would explain to you how it has been wonderful to pay staff salaries and keep the system running. Move to the next country where people rush to study, look at how much they pay and what they get for it. Whether they have teachers or not doesn’t matter. But every visiting professor here takes more than N1m. We are not talking about top individuals, Nobel Laureates and others. So, it’s where we find ourselves and we want to make a difference, and we must make a difference. I want to believe that the private universities are doing the best they can. Ask the federal universities how they get their allocations, what they calculate to train a child out of the university. Ask them what it is and ask them who subsidises for private universities. Most of them don’t have any equipment whatsoever. There is no engineering equipment you are looking for that you won’t find here, bought brand new. If the government is not accepting responsibility, all we can do is to do the best we can to get these children trained, but at a cheaper cost than they do and with greater quality than they have. Those who cannot afford it can go to government institutions and if they are committed, they will still come out with good results.
The attention of the whole world has turned to Nigeria because of Boko Haram. What is your take on this?
I hope that we are willing to find solution to it. I would be the last person in this world to believe that government has not discovered those who are behind Boko Haram. Otherwise, we don’t have any intelligence service in our country. Are they sacred cows that cannot be brought to book? Until we cut the source of their supplies and get those who are involved, we cannot stop them. But the danger is this, and I must say it here, we are at the verge of a break up. That is the truth. It’s unfortunate. The Nigerian nation is too intelligent to claim not to have discovered those who are behind this. So, I really believe it’s all in the hands of the authorities to decide whether they want to confront the issue headlong or to keep watching it until Nigeria breaks up.
Does it mean there is nothing the church or other religious organisations can do?
All that the church can do is to pray. The church is not in power, it has no political power. And when invited, we give advice, when required or called upon. You can’t call someone and say can I advise you?
But people also criticise men of God like you for honouring the President’s invitations?
A president is a president, whether it is Jonathan or not, It would be stupid not to honour your President’s invitation. So, what is wrong with honouring the president? This is the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. He’s our President, not that he made himself President. It’s all nonsense. We are not politicians. We are men and women of God who are pursuing a divine call. I honour President Jonathan as our President as a nation and as my president as a citizen, and so I have no regret and I would never regret being there at anytime he calls. My understanding is that anyone who is the President of this country requires the honour of the citizens and no matter your political view, it doesn’t change it. If he is doing thanksgiving or marriage, he is doing it in the church, who would be with him if the men of God are not with him? If I were in Canada or Australia, and I knew that my President was having an occasion that I thought I had to be there with him to honour him, I would fly down here. Whether it is President Jonathan or somebody else, as long as it is the president, and he says please can I see you, it is an honour.
Apart from insecurity, corruption is another problem in Nigeria. We have looting here and there which is also capable of causing unrest. What is your take on the corruption in the country?
That comes down to the kind of education that we offer. This is nothing but the expression of the content of the men. For instance, I have never given a bribe and I would be the last to give a bribe. I would rather die than give one. And those who collect bribe know that they can’t collect from me. Corruption has stayed with us for too long and I think it is a breeding ground for revolution. There is nothing happening in any private university today that would not have happened more in public universities, but for leakages here and there. But my understanding is that the church has a place of intense prayers because only God can change the hearts of men. People seek for appointment today not because of what they want to contribute but what they would have to share. Everybody is bothered, I am bothered. The rate of corruption in our society as Nigerians and Africans is enormous. But the church needs to be the example of what it wants to see in the society as far as corruption is concerned. Be that example; be able to say no and stand with it like Daniel. Right now, unlike in the time past, there are many Christians occupying sensitive positions at all strata of both public and private sectors. If the church people really come to a point of taking a stand against corruption, it would affect and impact Nigeria and the citizens positively.
Some people think there are too many churches in Nigeria and the best way to make money is to establish a church…
Let them go and start one. Almost every house in some parts of Nigeria is a mosque. So what is the complaint about? Multitudes still flock the roads on Sunday mornings going nowhere. Are churches enough? No. Until everybody is saved and everybody is off the street on Sunday mornings, we don’t have enough churches. So for those who are angry, they would be angry for too long because we haven’t seen churches yet. A time is coming on Sunday morning that we won’t see anybody on the street, because they would be in church. And those who go to church to make money go bankrupt before they start. Church is not a money-making platform; it is a life-raising platform.
There are many men and women who are coming out to start stronger ministries than the ones we are doing. So, you can’t say enough. Enough of what? Why don’t you say people in the market are enough? Somebody else is starting shoe or wrist watch business today in spite of the millions that are in it in Nigeria. Some barbers are just graduating today to join the company of barbers in the country already, yet we didn’t say they are enough. So, what’s the headache? My submission is that we don’t have near enough churches in Nigeria yet and the ones we have are doing well. I can tell you that there are hundreds and thousands of vibrant and Bible-believing, heaven-focused and life-changing churches, founded by genuine people who are called by God and are pursuing their callings and ours is just only a little thing out of too many, and many more would still rise, so anybody that wants to be angry can just get ready to be more angry. Church is not a money-making venture, those who are saying it is should open one and they would make a lot of money.
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IMAGES OF THE TRUE ISRAELITES

According to the Torah, Israelites were forbidden to create images of themselves (ref. Ex.20:4). However, neither the Egyptians nor the Assyrians had such restrictions. Both of these nations have picture archives of the True Israelites.

Israelites: Slaves of the Egyptians - approx. 1440 b.c.e.

HEBREW BRICK MAKERS

"And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in mortar and in brick..." (ref. Exo.1:14)



HEBREW WATER BOY


CLOSE-UP OF HEBREW WATER BOY

As slaves of the Egyptians, child labor was common among the Israelites.
The boy shown above is about 15 years old. Unlike Egyptian boys, this Hebrew will eventually grow a full beard.



YOUNG HEBREWS GATHERING GRAPES

...and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigor." (ref. Exo.1:14)

These Israelite children are about 10 years old. They worked in the fields of the Egyptians, as their parents labored in the brick pits. Their days off depended on which of the many Egyptian deities their master worshipped.



Hebrews entering Egypt - approx. 1877 b.c.e.

FIRST HALF OF CARAVAN SCENE

SECOND HALF OF CARAVAN SCENE

Notice the design of the clothing. Unlike the Hebrews, the Egyptians basically wore plain white linen.



HEBREW MEN

Historically speaking, these Hebrews would eventually become the rulers of Egypt. Then, they would become the slaves of Egypt. Approx. 1870 b.c.e., Yoseph, son of Israel, became the most powerful man in Egypt, second only to Pharoh himself (ref. Gen.41:39-45). This introduced the Hyksos period in Egyptian history.



HEBREW WOMEN IN WOOLEN GARMENTS

Hebrew women wear very colorful clothing. Most shepherd garments are made from the wool of their sheep. The wool is dyed various colors, spun into yarn, and woven into highly innovative, distinctive, and decorative patterns. Notice that no two women are wearing the same pattern.

Hebrew women are considered very beautiful to look upon. The Egyptians actually created "make-up" to make themselves look as pretty as Hebrew women look naturally; with their vibrant eyes and luscious lips.







THE RACES OF MAN HAVE NOT CHANGED

NORTHERN HAMITES

The biblical name of Egypt is "Mizraim". They are a Hamitic people (ref. Gen.10:6). Their immediate family of nations include the Libyans, the Carthaginians, and the Philistines (ref. Gen.10:13).

The Egyptians considered themselves to be better than the other races of men. In fact, they would not even sit down to eat at the same table with a Hebrew (ref. Gen.43:32).



SOUTHERN HAMITES

The first rulers of the human race, after the Flood, were from the family of Ham (ref. Gen.10:9-11). Nimrod, son of Cush, looked like the figures above. After the Great Confusion (ref. Gen.11:7-8), the sons of Cush established what came to be known as the Nubian Kingdoms of ancient Africa. The nations of Phut, and Sheba are also considered southern Hamitic people.



SHEMITES

The Israelite Exodus from Egypt devastated the economy of the Egyptian empire, as well as it's military might. As their primary work force, the Israelites had provided cheap labor for the Egyptians for many, many years.

And, because of the plagues and disasters associated with the Exodus, the Egyptians also lost faith in their deities. To the Egyptians, the most perplexing Shemites were the Children of Israel.



YAPHET (EUROPEANS)

These people were the last to be given rulership of the earth. They represent the dominions of the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Turks, the Spanish, and the English. The Germans, the Russians, and the French are also nations of Yaphetic people.

As you see, they all have tattoos on their arms and legs. They also wear elaborate clothing and unusual stuff in their hair.



CLOSE-UP OF HEBREW FIGURE

Fringes! Also known as "gedeleem", the Israelites were commanded to wear them on the boarders of their outer garments (ref. Num.15:37-41 and Deut.22:12).





BEDOUIN CAPTIVE

For years, European historians have attempted to obscure the true identity of the ancient Hebrews with names like "bedouin" and "berber". The image of this captive was found in the funeral temple of Ramesses III. He is obviously a very important Hebrew sheik, probably Midianite. His hair is in the unmistakable ancient Hebrew style: LOCKS.



CLOSE-UP OF BEDOUIN CAPTIVE

Originally, Hebrews were of a "high-yellow" complextion. This changed drastically for the Israelites during their 400 year sojourn in Egypt.





CAPTIVES OF RAMESSES II

Just before the Israelite Exodus, the Egyptian Empire was at the height of it's imperial conquests. Approx. 1500 b.c.e., their dominion stretched from the land of the Hittites in the north, to the land of Kush in the south. The Hebrew nations of Midian, Medan, Kedar, Moab, Edom and Ammon were all under tribute to Egypt.



CLOSE-UP OF RAMESSES II CAPTIVES
The captive in the center is definitely a Hebrew. Notice his hair is also in "locks". The captive on the left is Hamitic, probably Libyan; and the captive on the right is also Hebrew, probably of Kedar.







Israelites: Captives of the Assyrians
From the palace of Sennacherib, approx. 680 b.c.e. (ref. 2kings 18:13-14).

KINKY-HAIRED ISRAELITE CAPTIVES


CLOSE-UP OF ISRAELITE CAPTIVES

Who can mistake these Israelites for any people other than us, the descendants of the slaves brought to America. These people are not "White", and certainly not "Native Americans" (i.e. "Indians").



ISRAELITES GOING INTO EXILE

"Therefore, son of man, prepare for yourself an exile's baggage, and go into exile by day in their sight..." (ref. Ezek.12:3)

The Assyrians conquered and relocated the Israelites of the Northern Kingdom into what is now known as Iraq, Iran, and Kuwait. Those Israelites who escaped the Assyrians fled south into the lands of Judah, and into Egypt.



CLOSE-UP OF ISRAELITE EXILES








DEAD AND CAPTIVE ISRAELITES

The 28th chapter of Deuteronomy warned the Israelites of what would happen to them if they broke their covenant with the Almighty. The Israelites did break their covenant, and eventually the full curse of the Almighty fell upon them.



CLOSE-UP OF DEAD ISRAELITES





ISRAELITE KING JEHU IN SUBMISSION

This is the only known image of an Israelite king. Jehu, king of the northern Israelites, is shown bowing down to
Shalmanesar, king of the Assyrians, approx. 682 b.c.e. (ref.2Kings 17:3)



CLOSE-UP OF ISRAELITE KING JEHU







ISRAELITES UNDER BABYLONIAN CONTROL

EXILED ISRAELITE MUSICIANS

This relief is from Nineveh, approx. 678 b.c.e. Israelites were always noted for their musical talents. They improved on and created many of the musical instruments used today. These include wind instruments, string instruments, and all types of percussive instruments (ref. Psalm 150).



CLOSE-UP OF HEBREW MUSICIANS

Dreadlocked Israelite musicians have existed for thousands of years. Even today, many Israelite musicians associate hair with music, pride, and power. Many of the original hip-hop artists believed their hair was supposed to be in locks. This also stands true for the majority of Reggae musicians.
The Law Covenant forbid both the shaving off of the beard, and the balding of the head (ref. Lev. 19:27).
Samson's legendary hair was in the form of seven huge locks (ref. Judges 16:13).







IMAGES OF OTHER SHEMITES

ARABS ON CAMELS BATTLE ASSYRIANS

According to the Torah, Ishmael is the son of Abraham by his Egyptian wife, Hagar (ref. Gen. 16:1-4). Ishmael was prophesized to be a "wild ass of a man" (ref. Gen. 16:11-12). Abraham's third wife, Keturah, bore him six sons. These six sons, along with Ishmael became known as the Arabs.
The prophet Mohammed, founder of the religion of Islam, is from one of these Arabic families.

Approx. 678 b.c.e., the Arabs were also conquered by the Assyrians.

From approx. 680 c.e., to today, their religion of Islam has had a great effect upon the earth's population. Presently, the number of people who practice some form of Islam outnumber those who practice some form of Christianity. Still, the religion of Abraham is at the root of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.
Under the banner of Islam, Arabic influence dominated the Middle East for 600 years, and reached into Spain, China, and Africa.

Approx. 1280 c.e., the Ottoman Turks began to take over the Islamic Empire.



CLOSE-UP OF ARAB CAMELMAN

Before the Ottoman Turk invasion of Arabia, the Arabs looked almost identical to their Israelite cousins. Notice the beard, the locks, the nose, and the eyes.

The Ottoman Turks are a Yaphetic (i.e. "White") people. The Arabs of today look so European because of Turkish-Arab race mixing.



ELAMITE SOLDIER

The Elamites rose to power early in post-Flood history (ref. Gen. 14:1)

The Elamites are from the seed of Shem (ref. Gen. 10:22), while the Medes are from the seed of Yaphet
(ref. Gen. 10:2 - "Madai").
Approx. 600 b.c.e., these two nations merged to become the people known as the Persians. The Persian Empire ruled the earth for about 300 years.



CLOSE-UP OF ELAMITE SOLDIER

The present day caste system of India is a direct result of the ancient merger of Madai and Elam
(ref. Dan. 11:1).

Established approx. 2,500 years ago, India's caste system is based on skin color. The very light skinned descendants of Madai are far more privileged than the very dark skinned descendants of Elam.







ISRAELITES OF THE AFRICAN DISPERSION




NATIVE OF SONGO AND HUNTER OF T'CHIBOCO

Both Songo and T'chiboco are located in present day Angola. Early 18th century European explorers into the interior of Africa used guides from these Shemitic African people. Because of their Shemitic ancestry, they remained separate from Hamitic Africans.

Although these Shemitic Africans controlled Africa for thousands of years, they are presently losing all their political power. Their decline began approx. 400 years ago with the initiation of the Atlantic Slave Trade.

One graphic example of this Shemitic vs. Hamitic rivalry is presently being played out in modern day Liberia. Another led to the fall of the Hebrew government of Haile Selassie I in Ethiopia, between 1970 and 1980.



MUTA OF T'CHIBOCO AND WOMAN OF CANGOMBE

Also from present day Angola, these are Shemitic Africans. The Israelite Hebrew slaves brought to America are related to these same people; all being Shemitic Africans.

All the nations that developed from Abraham are Hebrew nations - because Abraham was a Hebrew. Edomites, Israelites and Arabs are all Hebrews.

The Israelites, while dispersed throughout Africa, were first enslaved by Hamitic Africans, who sold them to the Arabs. These Ottomanized Arabs served as middlemen between the Hamitic enslavers and the European American buyers.

This slave trade fulfilled a curse pronounced on the Israelites, by the Almighty, some 3,300 years earlier
(ref. Deut. Chap. 28).



NATIVE OF BAILUNDO AND WOMAN OF LUIMBE

Most of the descendants of America's slaves know little or nothing about their Shemitic African ancestry. They believe their non-Hamitic features come from being mixed with Native American Indians. Because, unlike Hamitic people, Israelites have oval faces, and large vibrant eyes (as opposed to the smaller, shallower eyes of Hamitic people). And Israelites come in a variety of skin tones; from high yellow to dark brown
(ref. Jer. 12:9).

Israelites have "better" hair than Hamitic Africans, and it grows much longer. But, Israelite hair will naturally begin to "lock" at a certain length; approx. 2 inches. Hamites grow little or no facial hair, while Israelites grow a tremendous amount of facial hair. Even some Israelite women are able to grow a mustache, and sometimes even a beard. Israelites are forbidden to shave off the hair on their head and face
(ref. Lev. 19:27).

The Ashanti people of West Africa are definitely Hebrew Africans; as are the Fulani, and elements of the Yoruba people.



ASHANTI AMBASSADORS - 1881 c.e.

The Ashanti claim they are the dispersed descendants of the biblical inhabitants of Ashan
(ref. Josh. 19:7 & 2Ch. 6:59).

Although the Ashanti have picked up many Hamitic customs, their Israelite customs are equally practiced. Among these Israelite practices are:

A. - Slavery for debt (ref. Exo. 25:39)
B. - Purification ceremony after childbirth (ref. Lev. 12:1-5)
C. - Menstrual seclusion (ref. Lev. 16:19-24)
D. - Belief in ONE Supreme Almighty Power (ref. Exo. 20:3)
E. - Extreme reverence for the Holy Name (ref. Exo. 20:7)



CLOSE-UP OF ASHANTI PRIEST

Notice his head cover, and especially his breastplate necklace.

The breastplate contains twelve jewels, set three across, in four horizontal rows. This is exactly according to the Breastplate made for the High Priest of Israel (ref. Exo. 28:15-27).

And, although any Israelite may wear a head cover; Israelite Priests "must" wear head covers (a.k.a. bonnets) when on duty (ref. Exo. 28:40 & Exo. 39:28).





THE ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE



Of the more than 600 million Africans enslaved and shipped across the Atlantic Ocean, relatively few actually came to
the United States. Many of these rich plantation owners were Masons, and they wanted only one type of slave: Hebrew.
They believed, and rightly so, that having Hebrew slaves would guarantee their sucess.
They well understood the "Curse of the Ancient Israelites."



NOTABLE ISRAELITES OF AMERICA


PROPHET WILLIAM S. CROWDY

William S. Crowdy was born a slave in Maryland in the year 1847. A year later (1848 c.e.), notable English explorers into Africa reported discovering "African Jews"!

William S. Crowdy was emancipated at age 18. He served in the Union army during the Civil War. After the war, he traveled west to Okalahoma, where he bought a farm. Upon learning to read and write, his human experience, along with world events and his ability to read the Bible, led him to believe that the slaves of America were actually the true Children of Israel. Eventually he married and raised a family in Kansas City, Missouri. But, over the years his reasoning about the Bible and his people haunted him. Finally, at age 46, he began telling others by preaching on the streets of Kansas City.

Three years later, he was living and preaching in Chicago. There, he was ordained a "Bishop" by a few of the ministers he had commissioned to teach. In the year 1896, his organization became incorporated as "The Church of God and the Saints of Christ". Although founded during the times of "Jim Crow", his church was integrated, and most of the incorporating members were White.

Bishop Crowdy died in 1908, at the age of 61. After his death, his church divided along racial lines. The White faction is presently a global Christian assembly in competition with the Jehovah's Witness conglomerate. The Black faction became increasingly more and more "jewish". It is presently viewed as on of the largest Israelite congregations, having a number of "Temples" throughout the United States.







RABBI WENTWORTH A. MATTHEW

Wentworth A. Matthew was 16 years old when William S. Crowdy died. At age 27, he founded the Commandment Keepers Congregation in Harlem, New York. Over the next 50 years, many of the Master Teachers (i.e. Rabbi) he trained went on to establish synagogues of their own throughout the United States and the Caribbean. Rabbi Matthew was also a close associate of Rabbi Arnold J. Ford. At the age of 81, Rabbi Matthew died in 1973.







RABBI ARNOLD JOSIAH FORD

From about 1913, until 1928, Josiah Ford served as Marcus Garvey's Musical Director. After the collapse of the Garvey Movement, Josiah Ford founded the Beth B'nai Abraham Congregation. During the 1920's, both he and Wentworth Matthew learned of the Black Jews of Ethiopia - known as the Falasha - and began to identify with them. The multitude of Rabbi Ford's congregation was absorbed by Rabbi Matthew's when financial problems ended Rabbi Ford's operation during the 1930's. His headwrap is exactly like that presently worn by B'nai Zaqen.







BEN AMMI --------------------------- & ---------------- YAHWEH BEN YAHWEH

During the late1960's Ben Ammi Carter and Shaleah Ben Israel sucessfully drew large numbers of Black Nationalists, from in and around Chicago, into their "Original Hebrew Israelite Nation". By 1971, over 300 members had migrated to the land of Israel. Currently, they occupy two villages in southern Israel. Now known as the Kingdom of Yah (KOY), they have a number of operations throughout the United States.


During the 1970's, Yahweh Ben Yahweh, (born Hulon Mitchell, Jr.) founded the "Nation of Yahweh". He taught his followers that the true Lost Tribe of Judah is the Black people in America and the Caribbean. But, because he also said he was the son of the Most High, some of his over zealous followers actually murdered and decapitated a member of his organization, who openly opposed this teaching. Eventually, this caused Yahweh ben Yahweh to be convicted on Conspiracy to Commit Murder charges in 1991.







MODERN DAY FALASHA

The term "Falasha" actually means "stranger", and is applied by Hamites to those Israelites who occupy their lands. Centered mainly in Ethiopia, the Falasha were discovered by European explorers in 1848. The Falasha call themselves Beta Israel. They practiced the Laws of the Torah according to their understanding. Numbering approx. 45,000 persons, their elemental composition is from a number of Israelite tribes - especially the tribes of Dan, Judah, Naphtali, Simeon, and Benjamin.

And, the Ark of the Covenant is believed to still be protected by true Israelite Levites in some mountain stronghold in Ethiopia.

FALASHA ISRAELITE TEENAGER AND MAN

ELDERLY FALASHA ISRAELITES

GROUP OF FALASHA PROTESTERS IN ISRAEL

Since their "discovery" in 1848, Beta Israel (i.e. the Falasha) have been subject to various European masters. Many were immediatly converted into Christians. During the 1930's, Ethiopia was the last independant African nation. Every other nation in Africa had been colonized by some European power. Then, in 1938, Ethiopia was invaded and conquored by Italy, under the facist rule of Mussolini. During the Cold War period (1948-1985), the United States restored the government of Haile Selassie I, and established missle bases in Ethiopia. After the withdrawal of U.S. forces in the late 1960's, Communist influence over the Hamitic population in the region forced the Hebrews out of power. Historically, Israelites had ruled Ethiopia from the times of King Solomon until the end of Haile Selassie's government. During the 1990's the Jewish State of Israel airlifted thousands of Falasha out of Africa into Israel under an operation codenamed "Operation Moses"


FALASHA BOY AND YOUNG WOMAN







MODERN DAY HEBREWS OF THE MIDDLE EAST

PLOWMAN OF NABLUS IN SAMARIA

These images of Hebrews still in and around the land of Israel, remind us that the true Israelites have not changed much in appearance over the last 4,000 years. The plowman of Nablus looks almost exactly like Gad ben Gad of Philadelphia. The shepherd of Jordan looks almost exactly like Israel ben Israel of Baltimore.

SHEPHERD OF JORDAN

STREET SINGER OF YEMEN

This street singer of Yemen (minus the paint) looks exactly like a sister you see everyday in any major city of the United States.








CREDITS


"VIEWS OF THE BIBLICAL WORLD" (VOL.3)
International Publishing Co. Ltd. Jerusalem - 1960

p.110 ... Dead Israelites
p.167 ... Israelite Exiles



"GENESIS - WORLD OF MYTHS AND PATRIARCHS"
by Ada Feyerick
New York University Press - 1996

p.76-77 ... (4) races of Man
p.190-191 ... Hebrew Caravan



"THE OXFORD HISTORY OF THE BIBLICAL WORLD"
Edited by Michael D. Coogan
Oxford university Press - 1998
New York and Oxford

p.89 ... Hebrew Brick Makers
p.322.8 ... Kinky haired Captives of the Assyrians



"EGYPT - 400 YEARS OF ART"
by Jaromir Malek
Phaidon Press Limited - 2003
London and New York

p.253 ... Bedouin Captive


"EVERYDAY LIFE IN BIBLICAL TIMES"
National Geographic Society - 1967

p.34-35 ... Modern Day Hebrews of the Middle East
p.131 ... Hebrew Water Boy
p.141 ... Young Hebrews Gathering Grapes
p.284 ... Elamite Soldier



"COLLINS ATLAS OF THE BIBLE"
Edited by James B. Pritchard
Borders Press/HarperCollins Publishers - 2003
Ann Arbor, Michigan

p.49 ... Captives of Ramesses II



"6,000 YEARS OF THE BIBLE"
by G.S.Wegener
Harpers and Row Publishers - 1963
New York and Evanston

p.36-37 ... Arabs on Camels Battle Assyrians
p.74 ... Israelite King Hoshea



"THE ILLUSTRATED LIBRARY OF THE WORLD AND IT'S PEOPLE"
Vol - Israel and Turkey
Greystone Press - 1966 and 1968
New York

p.94 ... Exiled Israelite Musicians



"HEBREWISMS OF WEST AFRICA"
by Joseph J. Williams, S.J.
Biblo and Tannen Publishers

p.82 ... Ashanti Ambassadors


www.churchofgod1896.org/founder.html
...image of William S. Crowdy


"THE JERUSALEM CHRONICAL"
Vol.9 - No.2
p.3 ... image of Rabbi Arnold J. Ford


"THE JERUSALEM CHRONICAL"
Vol.12 - No.3
p.2 ... image of Yahweh ben Yahweh
p.3 ... image of Ben Ammi


"DREAD NEWS"
First Publication of the Baltimore Dread Society
September 1993

p.1 ... Native of Songo and Hunter of T'chiboco
p.2 ... Muta of T'chiboco and woman of Cangombe
p.3 ... Native of Bailundo and woman of Luimbe


ARE BLACK PEOPLE THE ORIGINAL JEWS?-A FORUM AT AFRICASPEAKS.COMBy Yeye Akilimali Funua Olade
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ehotepNewbie
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Original Jews were black or africans?« on: August 10, 2006, 09:20:11 AM »
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Can anyone shead light on this statement or prove it to be false?
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Queen_SamiyaNewbie
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2006, 09:30:20 AM »
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I truely believe that Africans were the orginal Jews which is known as Hebrews that lives in Northeast Africa and some other parts like Uganda.
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natural blacksJunior Member
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Blackheart Man
Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2006, 11:27:24 AM »
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From my studies, the supposed birth of “Moses” was before the first recorded foreign visitors to Alkebu-lan [1675 BCE]. So the jews must have been black then, and are black now. Where does that leave thousands of “semitic” rabbis around the world? Lost and tagged as thieves.
And why should we call them “original” jews? They are the jews… Haribu people.
Yanks & Ises. Love & Joy. Rasta Live.
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History has shown that it is the inaction of those who could’ve acted; the indifference of those who should’ve known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most that has made it possible for evil to triumph. – EMPEROR HAILE SELASSIE I
Queen_SamiyaNewbie
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2006, 01:25:44 PM »
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That is true natural blacks, but the white man want to take our religions away and make it to his own.
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Truth isAfricaSpeaks Member
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2006, 04:38:01 AM »
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The Jews are not the original inhabitants of Africa nor are they the chosen peopl of the bible that we have read about. They are people of russian/turkish descent and gained entrance to Isral by way of a treaty or something like that. (Aknazian) I don’t know how to spell it correctly but check it out. Check out the date for the entrance of the Jews to Israel. The original chosen people were African. The people that you see and read about are imposters.
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Truth isAfricaSpeaks Member
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2006, 04:58:38 AM »
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Ashkenazi Jew, I believe it was 1948 Check this out …… AliyahThe State of Israel will be open for Jewish immigration and the ingathering of exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel…
From the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, 1948 …….
Law of Return 5710-1950Right of aliyah** 1. Every Jew has the right to come to this country as an oleh**.
Oleh’s visa 2. (a) Aliyah shall be by oleh’s visa.(b) An oleh’s visa shall be granted to every Jew who has expressed his desire to settle in Israel, unless the Minister of Immigration is satisfied that the applicant
I hope this helps
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Truth isAfricaSpeaks Member
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2006, 05:06:41 AM »
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The Balfour DeclarationNovember 2, 1917During the First World War, British policy became gradually committed to the idea of establishing a Jewish home in Palestine (Eretz Yisrael). After discussions in the British Cabinet, and consultation with Zionist leaders, the decision was made known in the form of a letter by Arthur James Lord Balfour to Lord Rothschild. The letter represents the first political recognition of Zionist aims by a Great Power.
Check this out, please read further about the balfour declaration
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Queen_SamiyaNewbie
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2006, 10:02:50 AM »
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Quote from: Truth is on September 26, 2006, 04:38:01 AM
The Jews are not the original inhabitants of Africa nor are they the chosen peopl of the bible that we have read about. They are people of russian/turkish descent and gained entrance to Isral by way of a treaty or something like that. (Aknazian) I don’t know how to spell it correctly but check it out. Check out the date for the entrance of the Jews to Israel. The original chosen people were African. The people that you see and read about are imposters.
Truth is,
I am afraid that you are right! The original chosen people were Africans and the sad thing about it is that a lot of our people are worshipping white Jesus!
I just know that the ones whom rewrote it and put it into their own words are imposters!
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ehotepNewbie
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2006, 02:09:55 PM »
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Quote from: natural blacks on September 19, 2006, 11:27:24 AMFrom my studies, the supposed birth of “Moses” was before the first recorded foreign visitors to Alkebu-lan [1675 BCE]. So the jews must have been black then, and are black now. Where does that leave thousands of “semitic” rabbis around the world? Lost and tagged as thieves.
And why should we call them “original” jews? They are the jews… Haribu people.
Yanks & Ises. Love & Joy. Rasta Live.
Hotep Natural Blacks,
Indeed I agree with your point about not calling them the ‘original’ jews, because they are in fact the jews. The reason why I label them as such, is to provide clarity to our brothers and sister who are not aware of this. If you ask the average person walking on the street who are the jews, I bet 99 out of 100 people would tell you the askenazim or sepharim jews are the jews. It angers me, to know the truth and have so many of our people misinformed. It angers me further to have those who we try to enlighten not care.
I guess the kybalion teaches us best: “The lips of Wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding.”
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empressyikonaNewbie
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2006, 11:11:57 AM »
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Blessed,
Have anyone heard about the South African Lembas who say they have Jewish ancestry? Here’s a quote from a study that was done to establish the genetics of the Lemba:
“The Center for Genetic Anthropology, Departments of Biology and Anthropology, University College London, London, United Kingdom.
The Lemba are a traditionally endogamous group speaking a variety of Bantu languages who live in a number of locations in southern Africa. They claim descent from Jews who came to Africa from “Sena.” “Sena” is variously identified by them as Sanaa in Yemen, Judea, Egypt, or Ethiopia. A previous study using Y-chromosome markers suggested both a Bantu and a Semitic contribution to the Lemba gene pool, a suggestion that is not inconsistent with Lemba oral tradition. To provide a more detailed picture of the Lemba paternal genetic heritage, we analyzed 399 Y chromosomes for six microsatellites and six biallelic markers in six populations (Lemba, Bantu, Yemeni-Hadramaut, Yemeni-Sena, Sephardic Jews, and Ashkenazic Jews). The high resolution afforded by the markers shows that Lemba Y chromosomes are clearly divided into Semitic and Bantu clades. Interestingly, one of the Lemba clans carries, at a very high frequency, a particular Y-chromosome type termed the “Cohen modal haplotype,” which is known to be characteristic of the paternally inherited Jewish priesthood and is thought, more generally, to be a potential signature haplotype of Judaic origin. The Bantu Y-chromosome samples are predominantly (>80%) YAP+ and include a modal haplotype at high frequency. Assuming a rapid expansion of the eastern Bantu, we used variation in microsatellite alleles in YAP+ sY81-G Bantu Y chromosomes to calculate a rough date, 3,000-5,000 years before the present, for the start of their expansion.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=10677325
Please also check the following:
“Many “educated” people outside Europe/USA know a lot about Europe and Euro-America, but have less interest in peoples outside Europe/Euro-America, including their own people. Many Africans prize a “western” education but know little of Africans on the other side of their continent.
World knowledge of the Jewish diaspora is no exception to the Eurocentric rule. Most people (sadly including people of color) who have no contact with Jewish communities of color picture Jews as white Europeans. In actuality, the Jewish communities of Africa and Asia had dominated the Jewish intellectual and cultural scene in antiquity.
The following paragraphs will focus on non-European-origin Jewish communities in Africa. Ashkenazi and Ladino Jewish communities on African continent will not be covered in this article, except for their association with African Mizrahi communities. “
http://www.colorq.org/MeltingPot/Africa/AfricanJews.htm
Stepping humbly,Empress Yikona(Algerian and Moroccan Jewish roots)
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Read people read!« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2007, 11:01:18 PM »
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read people read reaD!
DOCTOR YUSEF BEN JOCHANAM,WE THE BLACK JEWS,BLACKMAN OF THE NILE AND HIS FAMILY.those are good books to start with
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Re: Original Jews were black or africans?« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2007, 02:24:17 PM »
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Well, Isreal is right next to Africa, and they escaped out of Egypt, and Egypt is in Africa, so… makes sense. How often does the first testament refer to places in Africa or that were once there?Yeah, my father and his side of the family avoid pork, celebrate/observe Passover, observe the Sabbath, but not Hanukkah. I have no idea how to spell that word, I know.I never really understood why I preferred to be called “Isrealite” instead of “Isreali”, but now I recognize the differences. European Jews tend to have names that have Russian, Polish and German influences in them, understandably. I don’t know how diluted the Hebrew language is in the Ethiopian Jewish communities, so I can’t say anything about that.My name is Hebrew (My dad wanted one ‘s’ so my name is Hadasah). I don’t practice any religion, though. Too much conflict over something so unnecessary. It’s not like the Middle East sounds like a great place to live right now, so of course one can’t be surprised at the lack of enthusiasm. =/ I only know what I know because I decided to ask my mom where did I come from. It changed my life forever, but only because I cared to know.Anyway, I don’t like the idea of black people worshipping a white dude, either. Before you know it you’ll have black dudes buying extensions so that they can have those curls on the sides of their face.
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15 Responses to “ARE BLACK PEOPLE THE ORIGINAL JEWS?-A FORUM AT AFRICASPEAKS.COM”
BELLESIA Says: September 23, 2007 at 3:03 am Reply edit
THE AFRICANS ARE THE TRUE JEWS IT HAS BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN BUT STILL OUR RELIGON AMONG OTHER THINGS WERE STOLEN FROM US. IT HAS ALSO BEEN PROVEN THAT THE ORIGINAL RELIGON IN AFRICA BACK THEN WAS JUDIASIM AND THEN WHEN THE EUROPEANS CAME AND CONQUERED US THEY ETHIR KILLED OFF HALF OF US WHO DID NOT WANT TO CONVERT OR WE WERE SOLD INTO SLAVERY AND THOSE WHO PRACTICED THE RELIGON WAS KILLED THE NATIVE TOUNG HEBREW WAS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO BE SPOKEN I MEAN COME ON…… DO U THINK THESE WHITE JEWS OF TODAY ARE ORGINALLY THE CHOSEN PEOPLE …..THEY CONQURED AND STOLE OUR RELIGONthey might be practicers of the truth but they are not theOriginal people of the truth we as black people all need to come together and educate ourselves about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Says: September 28, 2007 at 6:20 pm Reply edit
The jews of today are the edomites of the bible. They were conqured by the original jews and adopted their culture.
READ THIS Says: October 1, 2007 at 2:03 am Reply edit
EVEN IF THE ORIGINAL JEWS WERE BLACK ( WHICH I THINK I BELEIVE AFTER READING THIS) IT SAYS IN THE OLD TESTAMANT A JEW IS A JEW WHETHER THEY CONVERTED YESTERDAY OR ARE DESCENDANTS OF ABRAHAM. I HAVE TRACED MY FAMILY BACK 9 GENERATIONS AND THEY ARE ALL JEWISH BUT I STILL THINK THAT THE CHOSEN PEOPLE ARE ALL JEWS, NOT JUST THOSE WHO ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE RELIGION!!! IN OTHER WORDS: THIS ARUGUMENT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE! THE CHOSEN PEOPLE ARE THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE RELIGION, NOT ONLY THOSE WHO DESCENDED FROM THE FOUNDERS OF JUDAISM.
JONNY Says: November 24, 2007 at 9:40 pm Reply edit
I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH BUT IT DOESENT CHANGE ANYTHANG IT IS WHAT IT IS AND THE WORLD CHANGES TO THE TIME ….IF U BELIVE U ARE A JEW THAN GREAT IF NOT THAN THATS FINE TOO AT ONE TIME IM SURE EVERYONE WAS A DARKER COLOR AND LIVE ON THE LAND AND BECAME PEOPLE OF THE SUN ……BUT ONE THING IS 4 SURE AND THAT IS PEOPLE ARE FAR MORE THAN JUST COLOR OR RELIGON ITS KINDA SAD HOW PEOPLE ALMOST ALWAYS FAVOR THERE OWN KIND AND RELIGONS …….WHEN WE SHOULD FAVOR LIFE AND GOOD PEOPLE WHO LOVE TO LOVE
AFALINDDSW Says: January 5, 2008 at 1:51 am Reply edit
It’s Another New Year…
…but for what reason?“Happy New Year!” That greeting will be said and heard for at least the first couple of weeks as a new year gets under way. But the day celebrated as New Year’s Day in modern America was not always January 1.
ANCIENT NEW YEARSThe celebration of the new year is the oldest of all holidays. It was first observed in ancient Babylon about 4000 years ago. In the years around 2000 BC, the Babylonian New Year began with the first New Moon (actually the first visible cresent) after the Vernal Equinox (first day of spring).
The beginning of spring is a logical time to start a new year. After all, it is the season of rebirth, of planting new crops, and of blossoming. January 1, on the other hand, has no astronomical nor agricultural significance. It is purely arbitrary.
The Babylonian new year celebration lasted for eleven days. Each day had its own particular mode of celebration, but it is safe to say that modern New Year’s Eve festivities pale in comparison.
The Romans continued to observe the new year in late March, but their calendar was continually tampered with by various emperors so that the calendar soon became out of synchronization with the sun.
In order to set the calendar right, the Roman senate, in 153 BC, declared January 1 to be the beginning of the new year. But tampering continued until Julius Caesar, in 46 BC, established what has come to be known as the Julian Calendar. It again established January 1 as the new year. But in order to synchronize the calendar with the sun, Caesar had to let the previous year drag on for 445 days.
http://www.videosvyaz.ru/happy_new_year.htm
Victor Christian Says: March 30, 2008 at 9:50 am Reply edit
God has made it known that Christ came for the forgiveness of man’s StupIdNess – some say -’SIN’ -that he was God’s last word on the subject of redemption. Be glad and rejoice that the Lord God, Great Master of Creation and given us freedom through Christ. We are all free we are all brothers and sisters we are all saved but we do not acknowledge any of this. It is highly likely that the first people on earth and therefore the first of God’s creation were from Africa, ‘black’ or dark-skinned and it fairly clear that Christ was the same in terms of color. The Catholics through the Vatican and the Anglicans over the world and many other purveyors of ‘religion’ all live and breathe the same lie and fail to tell clearly the Good News outlined here. We can only ask that the Lord God frees us from these oppressed and suppressed false teachers.
Jgarbuz Says: September 4, 2008 at 1:55 pm Reply edit
First point, regarding Jewish rights to “Palestine” (or Land of Israel as Jews call it) was the League of Nations Mandate passed by the Council of the League of Nations at the San Remo Conferences of 1920 and 1922, wherein the League upheld the British Balfour Declaration of 1917 and gave the Mandate over Palestine to the British to ADMINISTER western Palestine for the purpose of reestablshing the “Jewish National Home.” That is, to permit the Jews the Right to Return from exile and resettle the “wastelands” and former Ottoman “state lands” in Palestine, and to purchase privately owned land from Arabs for the purpose of this resettlement. The idea was for Jewish immigration to reestablish a Jewish majority in Palestine, and then have a democratic and autonomous Jewish national homeland where non-Jews would have equal civil and religious rights as a minority. In other words, the League did not recognize western Palestine as part of the Arab Greater Nation, but as the JEwish nationial homeland.
Second point, regarding the racial aspects of the original Hebrews, that is controversial, whether Sumerians were black, white or somewhere in between. What is not controversial is that when the first HEbrews went into Egypt and were eventually made servants (or slaves), they mixed with others in Egypt, and finally came out a “mixed multitude.” We know the Bible says that Moses’s last wife was a Cushite. Nothing more is said about it.I hope this helps.
Raheim X Says: September 4, 2008 at 6:48 pm Reply edit
In the book of Revelation it states that Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. and if Jews where not Black (or are Black) how did Moses pass for an Egyptian for decades. and even in Deut 28:68 it says that And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. Listening to this scripture the world can try to deny what God has planned for us or even try to deny us what God said was ours already, but we are the only ones who were transported to another continent in a ship. They no the truth but what they are trying to do is plant thoughts in peoples heads to make it seem like light skin is more superior than dark skin but the devil is a liar. I’m sorry but America but Jesus was not pale faced with blue eyes and blonde hair he was bronze skinned with hair like wool: African. Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord.” (Amos 9:7) shows implication that the original Hebrews where of African descent and what God has for us is still ours even though lies have been told.
ROllO Says: September 12, 2008 at 5:50 am Reply edit
All throughout time the “real” Israellite or Jew has been denied his true place in time. The world “jewish” means subspecies of Jews! the people who call themselves jewish and their ancestors have stolen our true identity and will not expose the truth! We as the true Jew and Israellite need to search for information for the truth in order to free your mind and find our GOD! The true hebrew were not of African descent, they were Jew (black) an Israellite. Africans dont not like black americans because they were a part of the cause of slavery they were the ones (ethiopians) who were given guns and alcohol, trapped us(lost tribes of Israel) we were captured and were scattered in all four parts of the world. We need to start searching for the truth and set our minds hearts and souls free!
St Says: September 29, 2008 at 8:01 pm Reply edit
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Yaccov Says: March 2, 2009 at 8:26 pm Reply edit
To all nonbelievers of the ancient Israelites being of African descent, I would like to turn your attention to the book of Deuteronomy. In particular chapter 28 verse 68, the lord will bring you back to Egypt in ships by the way I said you will never see again and there you will allow yourselves to be sold to your enemies as slaves, male and female. History has shown that while in Egpyt the Hebrews were slaves and blacks are the only people to be taken away by ships. Before the excavation of the Suex Canal in the 1800s Israel and Egypt had no seperation so therefore you couldn’t take a ship from one to the other. Furthermore history has shown that blacks permitted slavery upon themselves by greed and if that does not convince you that the truth has not been told I’m not sure what will.
kwamerica Says: September 15, 2009 at 10:43 am Reply edit
The Moshiach is a human being who will have to bring the Jewish Nationall over the world together in a time called the last redemption.The Moshiach’s ability to do that is not by human power or humanknowledge but by the supernatural power of the Holy One of Israel.The Moshiach brings perfect peace to world by not telling the world toput down their arms.The Moshiach is timeless, meaning he had existed before time.The Moshiach converses directly with the owner of the universe.The Moshiach brings real meaning to all meaninglessness of the world.The Moshiach knows death and will stop death throughout the world.The Moshiach loves humanity.Humanity was made for the Moshiach.The Moshiach knows where the first human was dug from.The Moshiach is the Holy One of Israel’s last messenger to mankind.The Moshiach is a direct descendant from King David of Biblical times.The Moshiach ushers the whole world into the state of utopia.The Moshiach only opens his mouth and the whole world go blind on sin.The Moshiach brings perfect justice on planet earth.The Moshiach does not judge by what he sees with his eyes or hearswith his ears.The Moshiach is neutralThe Moshiach comes from the exact middle of the earth. The cradle ofhumanityThe Moshiach suffers very much both physically and emotionally.Like a movie, The Moshiach’s script is Isaiah 49 which he is going toread to all humanity when he is outdoored.The Moshiach does not dieThe Moshiach is aliveThe Moshiach was born on 11th October, 1975 in an orphanage in Ghana,The Moshiach is Isaiah 11The Moshiach is Isaiah 42The Moshiach is mandated to read the whole chapter of Isaiah 61The Moshiach has a Law which all gentile nations will put their hopeinThe Moshiach brings both Jews and Gentiles togetherThe Moshiach suffers to be heard.The Moshiach knows and explain satisfactorily to every man in simplelanguage the REAL MEANING OF LIFEThe Moshiach is going to steal the world by surpriseThe Moshiach does not preach repentanceThe Moshiach even says the time to repent is overThe Moshiach when he gets angry…… psalm 2The Moshiach is just like David, using very primitive tools to fight the enemyThe Moshiach is the suffering servant(Isaiah 53), one like the son of man Daniel 7, the servant of the Lord (Isaiah 42), the seed of the woman, The root of Jesse (Isaiah 11)… in that day the root of Jesse shall stand as an ensign for the people and the nations shall rally to him.The Moshiach brings the little rock (TORAH) that came to hit the statue King Nebucadnezar saw in Daniel 2.The Moshiach is mandated to change the existing human code.The Moshiach does not make noise in the street, least he is branded as a Lunatic. Isaiah 42The Moshiach is the prophet like Moses. Deut 18:18The Moshiach is always in pain and distress. Always crying for humanityThe Moshiach has the new name of Zion (Isaiah 62), and the perfect design of the New Jerusalem (New World) with all 12 gates carefully marked out.The Moshiach needs help badly. The evil one is really torturing him. The only thing the evil one can’t do to him is to kill him.HOW DOES HE KNOW HE IS THE MOSHIACH. Answer found in Isaiah 48:16
WE WANT MOSHIACH, WE WANT MOSHIACH, WE WANT MOSHIACHI warn every Jew reading this that it would have been better if THE MOSHIACH had not come in your generation.If you are a Jew reading this, then this is the message from the HolyOne of Israel.
HE SAYS EVERY ORPHAN (BE THE FELLOW RICH, POOR, OLD OR YOUNG) ONPLANET EARTH, BE GIVEN AT LEAST ONE BANANA (FOOD) WHICH DOES NOT BELONG TO HIM TO EAT EVERY MONTH.
IN EFFECT ADAM CAN AND MUST NOW EAT THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT. HE HAS NOW ACCEPTED THAT AN ORPHAN CAN NOW EAT FOOD THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO HIM AND MAKES IT A LAW.
THIS INSTRUCTION WILL CHANGE THE WHOLE FIBER OF THE HUMAN RACE AND THE ENVIRONMENT
THIS IS ALL THE WORLD NEEDS TO BE A PARADISE
EVERY THING HAS GOT IT UNIQUE ID, AND SO NO TWO IN-TAKE OF BREATH IS THE SAME
THE TORAH WILL MAKE THE KNOWLEDGE OF G-D BE ABUNDANT AS WATER COVERS THE SEA.
enoch Says: September 18, 2009 at 11:33 am Reply edit
who are the jews the black people or the the white
enervis Says: February 27, 2010 at 12:45 pm Reply edit
Hi, as you may already found I am newbie here.In first steps it is very good if somebody supports you, so hope to meet friendly and helpful people here. Let me know if I can help you.Thanks in advance and good luck!
Dorian Says: March 6, 2010 at 9:34 am Reply edit
Just starting out. Any tips?
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